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Potty Training: Yellow Is the New Green

Posted By
BethArky
July 17, 2009

ToiletI've taken a very big plunge. Or rather, the opposite. This is the story of how I turned my back on a behavior ingrained since childhood. To be perfectly clear, I am talking about not flushing the toilet.

I can't claim sole credit for this move toward saving water. In fact, the first time my young son walked out of the bathroom and left the latrine slightly citrine, I wondered which naughty preschooler had taught Matthew this new way of rebelling. Hadn't all our potty-training bibles insisted on the flush, even ritualized it?
But when I grilled the kid under the hot lights, I got to the bottom of it: His babysitter was the mastermind, and it was, in fact, an act of conservationism. So there, Mommy.

If I've learned one thing in my six years of doing the mom thing, it's this: Trust thy sitter. Even my DH (Dear Husband), who remains somewhat grossed out by the practice -- even though we are talking only Number 1 here, NOT Number 2 -- knows better than to question our Super Nanny. After all, she had already managed to get our water-lovin' baby, whom you first met in " The Paper Trail in My Kitchen," to turn off the gushing stream from the faucet when brushing his teeth. So her water-saving technique is now policy -- unless, of course, we have company coming. I wouldn't think of submitting even the most intimate of friends and family to our less-than-pristine eau de toilette.

The modern water-saving movement started back in 1995, when the National Energy Policy Act mandated that toilets use no more than 1.6 gallons of water, down from 3.5 gallons per flush (GPF) in the 1980s and a ridiculous 7 GPF back in the booming '50s. Since then, several toilet manufacturers have unveiled a host of options. One is the TOTO, that porcelain beauty out of Japan, which has an even better record on water usage, as I discovered at www.totousa.com! It turns out the company makes three High Efficiency Toilets (HETs), which "should be able to flush using at least 20 percent less water than is mandated by law and should not need to be flushed more than once to do their job."

I can't vouch for the company's numbers, but according to the site, the average American flushes five times a day, and that's just counting home use. (Add the bathroom breaks I took during The Cubicle Years and I'd have to figure in many more mandatory flushes, thanks to those mandatory eight glasses of water per day!) Assuming an average household consists of 3.2 people over 365 days, a standard 1.6 GPF toilet would use 9,344 gallons of water a year. TOTO offers ultra-quiet, high-tech models, including the very cool Duel-Max® Flushing System that allows you to select a "big" flush, which requires 1.6 GFP, or a "little" flush, which uses 0.9 GPF. According to TOTO, using an HET would save 1,869 gallons a year per household.

With its basic model starting at $350, TOTOs don't come cheap, especially compared with the stripped-down American Standard I found for $98 at Home Depot. But to put it in perspective, you can easily spend nearly $400 on a nice Kohler.

Now that I have begun to research this topic, I find that my sitter isn't alone: More people are going green by going yellow. So I had to ask our Super Nanny: What was the source of her water-saving habits?

Over the years, she has shared bits and pieces about her life growing up in a poor South American village, where she did without so many of the things we take for granted, from the nonessential (television) to what most of us would consider absolute musts (electricity, running water). As I pressed her for more details about her youth, I got a fuller picture of just how different her world was fewer than 20 years ago.

As a girl of 10 or 11, she'd rise at 4 a.m. every weekday and bike with a friend and adult to one of the village pumps, anywhere from one to three miles away, haul back two big buckets of water, shower and head off to school. (On the weekends, she had the "luxury" of sleeping in before her water run, a job done mostly by kids.) Her family of five would ration that water carefully, as it was all they had for the day to cook, clean, and bathe. It was not a commodity to be wasted.

Her story confirms many comments made by members of the Seventh Generation Nation: This conservation of resources wasn't about "being green"; it was, as she says, "a way of life." We live in a country of privilege, excess and waste, where being green is still a matter of personal choice, not necessity. I count myself among the millions who could be making more radical changes, and a whole lot faster. I also know I may always fall short of dark green expectations. But in the meantime, I appreciate your patience, advice, and support along the way.

Unfortunately, as stimeystimpkins wrote in response to my "Paper Trail" post, "Having to teach our kids not to be wasteful is probably unique to the Western middle- and upper-classes. But for those of us in those socioeconomic groups, it is what it is, and either we teach our children to conserve or we allow them to continue the grand Western tradition of destroying the earth."

So the lessons continue in my house.

The only downside to our new limited-flush policy: I have to scrub those toilets more often.

photo: Salim Fadhley


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Totos rock!
Posted by CPTDisgruntled | Wed, Jul. 22, 2009

We replaced all our toilets during a home remodeling project several years ago, and I'm delighted to report that I can count the number of times I've felt the need to double-flush on about two fingers (no pun intended).
My grandmother used to live on a small, water-conscious island off the coast of B.C., and when I visited her, she recited to me,
"If it's yellow, let it mellow
if it's brown, flush it down."
Uncharacteristic of my normally rather prim grandmother--it's always stuck with me.

We do the same in our
Posted by meperez69 | Wed, Aug. 12, 2009

We do the same in our house. For me it comes from my vacations in the island of the bahamas (exuma)...a water conscious island that has very little rainfall during the year. The poem goes... "In this land of sun and fun, we never flush for number one" :-)

sterling low flush toilets
Posted by jo_549 | Wed, Aug. 12, 2009

Sterling, which is a budget line of Kohler makes a low-flush option toilet. We have a family of 7 and when we remodeled our upstairs bath we put in the lowest priced model which cost just over $150 from our local plumbing supply store. No need to spend twice that to get a model with a .8 gal flush option. I am waiting for a good reason to throw away the old model in our downstairs bath but for now we just use don't flush rule.

Jo

Glad to find consensus
Posted by hhllau | Wed, Aug. 12, 2009

I've started not flushing the toilet around 5 years ago when I moved into my current house. My husband got used to it and now he's an alibi. We time our #1 together, and many times with our toddlers of age 3 and 5 too. The cover of the toilet tank is also constantly missing from the toilet since we use greywater to flush toilets whenever possible. However, this is a manual process. I wish I have a greywater system, but it's too pricy. Hope the government will soon hand out incentives on more water conservation solutions.

We've been doing this in
Posted by kjwkjw | Wed, Aug. 12, 2009

We've been doing this in our house for years. The saying goes, "Yellow is mellow. Brown goes down." Of course, if company is coming over, we do make exceptions.

Making the change
Posted by jillempa | Wed, Aug. 12, 2009

I remember hearing the old adage "If it's yellow, let it mellow; if it's brown, flush it down" when I visited some friends at Wittenberg University in the early '90s. I was a little grossed out at first, but then recalled my mother telling me basically the same thing as I was growing up.
I recently went back to this practice in my own home. Although my husband hasn't really caught on yet, my kids jumped right on the bandwagon. I do have to monitor the amount of toilet paper that accumulates, but, other than that, I'd say we're on our way to a more water-conscious household.

Potty Training: Yellow Is the New Green
Posted by cksaba@comcast.net | Wed, Aug. 12, 2009

The no-flush "movement" unbeknownst to us, we adopted the policy after my husband's company relocated his office to our house. After a month or two of him working at home, we noticed our water bill going up. Showers and lawn watering were constant, so the variable had to be the number of flushes. We, too, make the exception for company.

Potty Training: Yellow Is the New Green
Posted by greenmom4 | Wed, Aug. 12, 2009

Thanks for the new ideas and "slogans" that will be used in our household!

Our House Motto
Posted by 5webs | Wed, Aug. 12, 2009

If it's yellow, let it mellow. If it's brown, flush it down.

We have been doing this too!
Posted by Meka003 | Wed, Aug. 12, 2009

It all started when I was first pregnant and was peeing every 10 mins and we agreed that it was not eco-friendly to be flushing that often. We flush a lot less now. The only time we always flush pee is if we have company over :)

If it is Yellow
Posted by Rob Kehs | Wed, Aug. 12, 2009

Someone taught me if it is yellow it is mellow and if it is brown flush it down.I'm in FL and we are on water restrictions (and expensive) so thats what we do.

Not gonna happen at my house!
Posted by earlysun | Wed, Aug. 12, 2009

My mom called it "sharing flushes" when I was growing up. In a household of five, we did it to save money. Inevitably, my husband will point out every time I share or forget. It just grosses him out.
We do so many other things to be green, I've decided to let this one go.

American Standard FloWise Dual Flush Toilet
Posted by Erin Catherine | Wed, Aug. 12, 2009

There are two flush levels - a very small flush for #1 and a bigger flush for #2. I only have one restroom and would be horrified if a visitor found urine in the toilet! I don't want to waste water either - so this is my alternatuve.

I'm trying...I'm really trying...
Posted by Sandiacindy | Wed, Aug. 12, 2009

I've been trying to let it mellow if it's yellow, but, ugh...here in NM if urine stands a couple of hours, it smells awful. Let's not even talk about overnight... My partner has lived here longer than I so he's used to it. I'm having trouble getting past the odor...it seems to linger for days. And another problem is that we are 2 adults in a house with 3 toilets...sometimes I forget to go around see which one is loaded and ready! I guess in the days of extravagance we didn't consider this when having more than one toilet was the thing. Thanks for everything that's written here...it's inspiring.

Other easy way to save water if you do not have a double flusher
Posted by minilady | Wed, Aug. 12, 2009

Fill up an empty container, like a soda or ice tea bottle( something like 2 litters, either with rocks or sand and then place it in the tank, each time you flush, the water will refill the tank minus the space taken by the container you placed in it, on a long run that will save water AND you can still do when yellow let it mellow, but if you forget once to mellow it, you will feel less guilty ;)

For those with septic systems who wish to be more pro earth...
Posted by kernling | Wed, Aug. 12, 2009

City water users would save money by mellowing if their noses could take it... However I have a vertical flow septic system that flows into a constructed wetlands... This is a great option for all of the rural water users out there and helps rebuild the natural filters which have been mostly destroyed - wetlands... I highly recommend this septic option...

A Humorous Story
Posted by showaltersarah | Wed, Aug. 12, 2009

When I finally had my own place after college, I started using the "Yellow=Mello, Brown=Down" concept mostly out of laziness (yes, I said it... who cares when you live alone?!) When I started dating my boyfriend he one day exclaimed "um, you know you ALWAYS forget to flush!" and in my embarrassed state I didn't want to sound gross, so I quickly explained that it was "all for water conservation" and as I've always been good at weaseling my way out of conversational predicaments, he believed me! He believed I was all about the environment! We're still dating 2 years later, and now we're BOTH extremely conscious of our water usage...good thing he caught me in my 'laziness'!

Re: minilady's suggestion
Posted by wvwoman | Wed, Aug. 12, 2009

Be sure to follow those instructions to use rocks or sand in the bottle; I filed a 2-liter plastic bottle with water a while back (read about it somewhere) and all was well until one day I heard the toilet "running"---checked the tank, and the bottle of water had drifted over and blocked the 'flapper' from closing! Oops!

Reduction by Displacement
Posted by motherofpearl | Wed, Aug. 12, 2009

I remember years ago when I first heard the suggestion to use a brick in the tank to reduce water. We have low flow toilets at our house, but I had to laugh when recently visiting my mom and grandmother. The toilet at my grandmother's house must easily be more than 60 years old and the tank would take up half the trunk space in my car. I chuckled to myself when thinking of suggesting a brick to them to reduce water usage, but then thought that a cinder block would be better!

Yellow is the New Green
Posted by dianalbarc | Wed, Aug. 12, 2009

I heard an actress (forget her name) on tv recite a jingle about her new concept on flushing. She giggled "If it's yellow - let it mellow, If it's brown - flush it down".

Water conservation good, but what about Bacterial growth
Posted by jdv | Wed, Aug. 12, 2009

I applaud the effort to save water, I remember putting a gallon jug of water into the tank in the '70's in CA when we had a horrible drought. Same here in TX now, although we have 1.6 gallon fixtures so that does help.

My question for bethina is, what about the bacterial growth? We keep our home at 85 degrees during the day and at 80 degrees at night (believe me in TX, that's cool compared to outside) and the water is never really "cold" in the Summer here, more tepid from the taps.

Is there anything you can suggest that's environmentally friendly to kill or slow down the bacterial growth between flushes?

Thank you for any suggestions :)

Just add Vinegar!
Posted by cosmomama | Wed, Aug. 12, 2009

Started "nonflushing" during pregnancy. However, I didn't like the smelly toilet. It took awhile, but I started adding a splash of vinegar whenever we'd be out of the house for awhile. It seems to help clean the toilet, the vinegar smell is gone by the time we return, and I figure it is better than bleach! Vinegar... not just for salads anymore!

Flush on Two
Posted by VagabondDanielle | Thu, Aug. 13, 2009

I like to call it the "Flush on Two" Rule. If you're # 2 for the bathroom - you flush. If you perform # 2 - you flush. I encountered this about 20 years ago in HS, my friend's family followed this principle to conserve their well water.

In moderation
Posted by BrendaF | Thu, Aug. 13, 2009

I am 6 months into my 1st pregnancy and several months ago when I began peeing constantly I couldn't in good conscience flush every time. I do the non-flush in our master bathroom or in our downstairs bathroom when I am working from home and my husband is gone. It grosses me out though to pee after someone else. The good news is that I use a fraction of the toilet paper that I use to because our low flow toilets will clog otherwise so I get some paper conservation in also.

Sorry to be gross but...
Posted by yvonneLH | Thu, Aug. 13, 2009

...why hasn't anyone mentioned what is, to me, the most significant problem with the noble no-flush policy: the "splash back factor?" In particular, during (*ahem*) number 2 business? Who wants dirty "water" coming back at you? That's why we flush most of the time, especially before more critical times.

going green by going yellow
Posted by k9tiger | Thu, Aug. 13, 2009

This article makes me laugh. Growing up with a well that could go dry and a septic system that was very borderline. We've been going yellow for years!! Even now that I'm on city water and sewer, I still carry on the practice. I wish there was a way to store and use the gray water from the washer and dish washer to use in the toilet.

I DON'T FEEL ALONE ANYMORE...
Posted by vljmolbeck | Thu, Aug. 13, 2009

My father lived in rural Wisconsin for 3 years before he passed. He was on a septic system and his saying was..."If it's pee, let it be. If it's brown, flush it down." My daughter potty trained about 8 months ago and I wasn't willing to flush the little bit of urine that would come out. So we'd sit on the toilet and discuss the above saying and where I learned it. After only a few times, she would say "what would Grandpa Tom say? If it's pee, let it be?" I sure hope that my dad is having a good laugh up in Heaven at what I taught my daugher about him!!

By the way, thank you, cosmomama, for the vinegar suggestion. I have a highly sensitive nose, and tho I try to be green, sometimes I've just gotta flush!

I agree with the vinegar
Posted by sitaluna | Sat, Aug. 15, 2009

I agree with the vinegar option! also, for women, for simple peeing, the toilet paper can go into the wastebasket to help stop clogging. it sounded gross at first but even w/my sensitivity to smell, it's not. again many folks throw toilet paper away to save public or private systems from overload.
also, I use Dr Bronner Peppermint soap .. a little squirt on the toilet scrubber to swish around after a flush. keeps stains from building and has a great smell!
~Sita

Awesome!
Posted by sunsalix | Sat, Aug. 15, 2009

This story is great! Way back in 1987 when I was 17, I was trying new things to be environmentally friendly. One thing was to not flush the toilet every time. Well, I remember my younger sister thinking it was wrong, so she called my mother and told her I wouldn't let her flush the toilet! My mom told me I had to let her do it, and this didn't make me happy, so I told the both of them that they were hurting the Earth - LOL! I was pretty mad that they didn't understand what I was trying to do. Now I have my own toilets, and I can flush or not flush, so there!

what about clogging?
Posted by Farhaana | Mon, Aug. 17, 2009

We have found with the low water toilets, that they clog (with #2)easily. Then we have to flush numerous times to get everything down. It can be really frustrating. Any suggestions...

I thought my family were the only ones!
Posted by iloveanimals | Mon, Aug. 17, 2009

This article makes me laugh. My parents used to occasionally use this rule, and it would make me mad! They did it to save money. I understand now, and use it in my home. We flush when company comes over of course.

Not to be too gross, but we flush after 2-3 times, or if it's *really* yellow. lol

Reply to what about Bacterial growth
Posted by bethina | Thu, Aug. 20, 2009

Dear jdv:
Nation member cosmomama recommends adding a little vinegar to the bowl between flushes. The Seventh Generation science experts say that if the ratio of urine to water is small, odor in warm weather is probably a bigger issue than bacteria.

"If it's yellow..........
Posted by ocmd123 | Sat, Aug. 22, 2009

let it mellow. If it's brown, flush it down." This has been our motto for 25 years. We have a very shallow well. During dry spells, the practice of not flushing every time was essential, or our well would start to pump muddy water. We just made it an everyday habit because it made a lot of sense. I'm going to start using vinegar, too!

happy yellow
Posted by byrdsword | Thu, Dec. 10, 2009

I have recentally moved off campus and my roomate and I share a bathroom. We flush about 3 times a day between the two of us. I love walking into the bathroom and seeing yellow toilet water. One question or problem, it's smelly after a while. We got a bowl cleaner but whenever I look at it I just know all of thoes chemicals going into the water and it cracks my heart a bit. Any suggestions to keeping the pee smell down and the chemical useage out of our bowl? Thanks keep on keppin on the green train.

Cleaning w/o chemicals
Posted by ODog | Mon, Dec. 14, 2009

Byrdsword, you can definitely stay on top of keeping your toilet clean w/o chemical usage. First, keep a bucket of grey water handy (fill it up with the water from your dehumidifier, washing machine if it empties into a utility sink, or just place it under the faucet while you shower...plenty of places to get water for practical reuse). Second, pour enough of this water down the toilet so that it "flushes" but not so much that you start filling the bowl again. You basically want the bowl empty. Sprinkle some baking soda around the interior of the bowl (I use a sifter but it's not necessary) and let it sit for a few minutes to absorb. Then spritz some vinegar all over the baking soda and it will sizzle and fizzle like a gradeschool volcano project. Then simply scrub the bowl interior with a toilet brush or a sponge (with some forearm covering rubber gloves, of course; sponge method is much more thorough a cleaning) and "flush" down the vinegar/baking soda remnants with your bucket when you're satisfied. Refill the bowl to your liking with the bucket water and Voila--you've just cleaned your toilet without using a single drop of fresh water or any chemicals!

brown water
Posted by nancywayne3 | Sat, Dec. 26, 2009

after we bathe, we use the water from our bath in the garden or on potted plants. we do not use oils or other kinds of cream bathsoaps so the water is fine to use even with a little shampoo in it.

mellow yellow
Posted by bratil03 | Sat, Jan. 9, 2010

Well I've never really thought about this in this way of being mellow with yellow and down with brown. However, in our family there have been times when we all need to go at the same time, so unless one of us make a big mess we ask the person who's "on" to not flush cause the next person will when they are "done". I think that with the fact that we have to pay for water around here this will be a new "habit" to easily install within our family. Of course not when there's company of course. This has been an interesting read and say thank you to your nanny for all of us.

Wow, me too!
Posted by Jplambeck | Sat, Jan. 16, 2010

I was so happy to see this article and all the comments! This is something I started doing during pregnancy and continued while potty training my son. I thought what was the point in flushing when my son pees so little each time. My husband was a little grossed out by it, but now he does it too.
With regards to vinegar, I use vinegar for washing cloth diapers as it helps to neutralize the proteins of the pee in the diaper so the diapers don't smell and my son and daughter don't get diaper rash either. I noticed a big difference after I started cleaning with vinegar. I always pick up a couple gallons when it's on sale. It's such a great cleaner!
I'm glad to know I'm not the only one.

many good tips in these comments
Posted by epittaluga | Sun, Jan. 17, 2010

My husband and I first decided not to flush every time because we both get up a several times in the middle of the night. So we flush in the morning, then every two or three uses during the day if we're both home. I thought the vinegar idea I read above was fantastic and I will implement it! Another solution I use to keep the bowl clean (because let's admit it, it does smell) is to use Seventh Generation toilet bowl cleaner every three days or so. Works like a charm. We also put a brick in our tank but not sure how much good that does. We both abhor wasting water and money, and flushing ever time does both. When you think of all the water people waste this seems like such a small thing to do.

We're not the only ones!
Posted by katiegzap | Tue, Jan. 19, 2010

My husband and I have been doing this for years, but I never thought anyone else did! As others have mentioned, we make sure to flush when company is coming over.

Yeah Im not the only one!!
Posted by danabug269 | Sat, Jan. 23, 2010

My Husband yells at me for it, but I dont care!!! I refuse to flush 10 times a day, especially in the middle of the night when its really noisy. Im glad to hear Im not the only one with yellow water toilets. I hate flushing in the public bathrooms as well, who knows how many times they get flushed!!

Love it!
Posted by cowgirlstef | Thu, Jan. 28, 2010

We do this too! Actually, it started back on a missions trip to Mexico. Their motto was "If it's yellow let it mellow, if it's brown flush it down." :)

toilet water and flushing
Posted by Shortround | Fri, Feb. 5, 2010

when decorative water fountains, green grass having priority
I wil flush- I have installed low level toilets and saved water.
The strawberry farmers in Plant City,Fl sprinkle 24hr/continuly
during a freeze--now that is for money for them cause we can
live without strawberries, but health wise we do gotta go as
kidney infections are not profitable for the individual having
them. There are many ways to save water--lets hear about them.
Using rinse water is great idea. Katie Mae

another dual-flush option
Posted by mrray | Mon, Feb. 15, 2010

I recently installed a two-flush system, "one2flush", in an older toilet. Not only is it inexpensive, it is well-designed and works really well. The only trade-off is that the tank must be removed in order to install the one2flush hardware, but it's really not that big a deal.

Ray B.

Flushing Frenzy
Posted by Lillian Robinson | Wed, Feb. 24, 2010

Just got back from a cruise with stops in Cozumel, Roatan, and Belize. At all land ports, we were asked to throw toilet tissue in the wastebaskets beside the toilet. I've kept this up since I got home and was happy to see that others are already doing this.

another version...
Posted by ehearnd | Sun, Mar. 14, 2010

What I grew up was... "if it's clear, leave it here. if it's brown, flush it down." it's slightly less nauseating than thinking of the yellow 'mellowing' :-)
Something I'm genuinely curious about...is it better for TP to go in the trash (landfill) than down the drain and through a city treatment plant? Which makes less of an impact on the environment?

Daddy knows best
Posted by jfastmover | Sun, Apr. 4, 2010

My dad used to delay flushing the toilet after a few uses. I once asked him why didn't he flush after each use. Just to let you know, I was a grown woman when I asked dad that question. He said, "flushing all the time is such a waste and it saves me money on the water bill". Now all this took place years before you even heard about our environmental problems with electric, gas, water, ozone, etc. I always knew my dad was a smart guy!!

Last time I implemented this practice...
Posted by hjmclark | Mon, Apr. 12, 2010

...my then 18-month old daughter explored the toilet and contracted dysentery. She became extremely sick. I am waiting until my youngest child is out of toilet training and old enough to know better than to reach in the toilet before I consider adopting this practice again.

Composting urine
Posted by greenmomto5 | Sun, Apr. 18, 2010

Instead of flushing the toilet everytime my 2 year old goes in his little potty, I bring the pot out to a bucket just outside my backdoor. Then every three or 4 days I empty the bucket into my compost bin, because it's suppose to be really good for the compost. Thus reducing and needless flushing of the toilet, and in turn making my fertalizer richer! The kids even help dumping into the bucket before my 1 year old can get into it!

Good To Hear.
Posted by rb5598 | Sat, Apr. 24, 2010

I started doing this myself about 6 months ago. I don't know what made me think about it, i wasn't brought up in a very environmentalist family, though have became one myself. I don't do must in that regard in society, though I would love to become more involved in that regard. But I always try to do my own part at least. I'm a very out of the box thinker, not going with what I'm taught specifically in society, Buddha - "Doubt everything, find your own light." Knowledge is power so I follow that deeply. And one day I just started not always flushing the toilet every time to conserve water as well.