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How many family members does it take to reuse a plastic bag?

Seventh Generation Nation member Beth Arky, who lives in New York City with her husband and their young son, is trying hard to green the family's lifestyle. Her husband isn't exactly sure how this process should work.

Beth: I'm proud to say that I'm the product of a long line of recyclers. My mom was green decades before the term was invented. Remember how we used to tease her for washing out Ziploc bags and reusing them? Well, she's having the last laugh. I just saw a "Telescoping Plastic Bag Dryer" for people who have caught on to what mom did.

Husband: Sorry, but the way she'd hang those bags from the kitchen cabinet handles to dry was just plain wacky. She couldn't afford new bags?

Beth: Now that we're in the midst of our own economic crisis, I understand her Depression-era mentality a whole lot better. In fact, she looks like a genius. I fantasize that if she'd have invented this thing, we'd all be millionaires.

Husband: Except no one would have bought it. Who else was washing and reusing plastic bags back then? Not my mom.

Beth: One of my mom's favorite expressions was, "Waste not, want not." She was always screaming, "Save the paper! Save the paper!" when you were opening gifts so she could reuse it. Talk about torturing a kid. We finally rebelled as teens and ripped away. At least we did put the paper in the recycling bin.

Husband: Can you imagine trying to convince our son, Matthew, to not rip open his presents? He wants to rip open everyone's presents.

Beth: Speaking of presents, hon, our anniversary's coming up and that bag dryer thingy is only $14.95.

Husband: You really are turning into your mother!

Beth: You just said you liked the way she economized. Plus, it's such a shame to throw a perfectly good bag away. And Matthew will learn a new way to take care of the planet.

Husband: That thing is a dumb idea and a waste of money. We are not washing out plastic bags.

Beth: Maybe it's time to start. Have you seen what resealable plastic bags cost lately?

photo: Diana House

Comments (17)

Posted by: organicandi

how many family members...

Where I live I can't recycle wrapping paper. My mother-in-law has drawn attention to me reusing gift bags, wrapping paper, etc. like it's a bad thing. I loved reading this story it reminds me of me. -organicandi

Posted by: Peque

Is it water wise?

I'm wondering if the water that is used to wash all those little plastic bags is worth to save the bag from going to the landfill, or anywhere else.
I think we should focus on not to promote the production of plastics, and use safer products like glass or aluminum foil.
I also read somewhere that when plastic bags are recycled there is a great amount of contamination released to the environment. I hope you have more information about this so we can really be able to take the most healthy "green" action.

Posted by: BCarrierJones

the perception of poverty and wealth

I found "husband"'s comments sadly all too common place these days; the perception of our society of what constitutes a display of wealth versus a display of poverty contradicts acts of common sense. Statements like, "She couldn't afford new bags?" really translate to, "it makes her look poor." I run into that all the time when I ride my bicycle. People constantly yell at me from their gas-guzzling SUVs, "can't you afford a car?" Well yes, I own two cars and a work truck, but that doesn't mean I can't pedal myself around to help reduce wasteful consumption habits. And I am not poor... I find my wealth in raising my own vegetables in a garden I keep instead of paying for tomatoes trucked across the country, and in hanging my clothes out on a line to dry instead of using a dryer (although that too makes me look poor in the eyes of my uneducated neighbors). We should look to alter society's perception of what makes a person or family wealthy, because it isn't possessions and the ability to consume and to waste, it is found in the ability to create and to save.

Posted by: lperlmutter

Susan329 is right on!

I even once bought a do-dad to dry plastic bags made out of bamboo (much to the dismay of my husband), and there it sits in the drawer because I simply stick wet bags over the paper towel holder (since we so rarely use paper towels anyway) or the baby bottle drying rack.

We are big fans of two products:

1) sandwich wrappers that are reusable and darn cute:

www.reusablebags.com/store/wrapnmat%C2%AE-p-2.html

2) pyrex glass storage containers that go from freezer to fridge to microwave or toaster oven or oven to table - they even look nice as simple servingware. when I'm alone, I often just eat leftovers right out of them:

www.pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=103&pid=348

Both of these things have cut down so much on the plastic bags we use! Then I don't have to worry if washing the bags is breaking down the plastic in an unhealthy way...

Posted by: recycler maniac

Reusing plastic bags -- almost ad infinitum!

At the beginning of the school year I buy ONE box of new Glad sandwich baggies and we wash and use those baggies over and over all year until the following September when we finally run out due to damage and attrition. My kids know to bring home the baggies and and plastic spoons (which I wash in my very efficient Bosch dishwasher that doesn't have a heating element so you can put plastics anywhere in the machine for washing...) Their friends ask about it all the time and are surprised. We also use often unbleached wax paper bags and their sandwiches are in containers -- guess what they are fresher and not crushed by luchtime, too!
Sandwich baggies are #4 plastic and recyclable in our community so once they're torn or punctured, we can put them in the recycle. They have aluminum water bottles for their water or milk and metal lunch pails (check out Lunchboxes.com.) This is all very do-able with a minimum of effort -- and tons healthier than just grabbing a Lunchable prepackaged lunch (usually in #7 plastic! Arrgggh.) Plus this saves a *bunch* of money!

And my husband made me a neat wooden plastic bag drying rack with 8 prongs to hang them on. Once the one side is dry, turn them inside out and dry the other side so they are always dry and clean to put in the drawer. You can also put plastic produce bags into your cloth shopping bags to use to buy your new produce like lettuce, etc. I can use these dozens of times before they succumb. And you do not need plastic bags for produce like oranges or bananas -- they come naturally prepackaged! I won't buy produce from places like Trader Joe's since they insist on putting everything into plastic containers for looks and marketing.

Posted by: starbrite

Common Sense is...

It's funny. We live in one of the richest nations in the world, and we take it so disgustingly for granted. Most of us have absolutely no concept of true poverty. Everything in our culture, our society, our way of life is a disposable commodity. Use it once, then throw it away. Not too much more than a hundred years ago, such an idea was preposterous. You used something until it didn't work anymore. These days, we use things until we decide we want it in a different color...or until it gets a slight chip...or until the newer model comes out with a few new features we don't need any more than the last few new features...and we throw away the "old" one. It astounds me how we've come to presume that we can always just run out to the store to get more of whatever. My folks give me grief that I sometimes live "like a hobo." I hardly think that's the case; and it's not that I live frugally, either, I just don't see the need to constantly throw money at products I could simply reuse. I reuse sandwich bags, water jugs, boxes, media mailing envelopes, wrapping paper - and from the couple that raised 4 kids on a military income, I get, "You act like you're poor! If you need more of that stuff, just buy it!" SOOOOOOOOO frustrating! My point is that this disposable mentality is simply that - a mentality. It wasn't there before such-and-such generation, and it needs to be unlearned. So for everyone who constantly gets grief for reusing what everyone else is blythely throwing away, hold that chin up and stick to your principles! You're not the ones who are wrong, they are! One day, hopefully, society will come around, figure it out, go, "Oh! DUH! Why didn't we do that earlier? Man, we had it all backwards!" and you'll be able to quietly say to yourselves, "THANK YOU!!!!!"

Posted by: zicki

Washing those bags!

Have you seen the Bag-E-Wash product to wash ziplocs in the dishwasher? It's really just some engineered zap-straps, but it's quite clever!

She actually references Seventh Gen on her FAQ page for discussions around the leaching issue:

"Q: I am concerned about toxins leaching into my food from plastics. Do you know if this happens with food storage bags?

A: Seventh Generation prints a newsletter called Non-Toxic Times. In their May 2003 issue they wrote about this very problem. You can see the actual article at www.seventhgeneration.com (click on sign up for free Non-Toxic Times, then click on newsletter archives and look it up by date). They reported a whole list of brand name containers and bags that have been found not to leach toxins into food. These included Glad and Hefty Food Storage bags. For more information on plastics and leaching click here."

Posted by: MotherLodeBeth

It's called common sense

Do not mean to sound arrogant but I think its stupid to not use glass containers for storage. Grew up in the 50's and 60's in a family with parents who were in the early forties when I came along, and having been thru the Great Depression and WW2 they taught me so many valuable lessons that have saved me money.

Think about the money you save when you reuse plastic bags (if you use them to begin with), and how the 50 cents here and there adds up. Growing up we never left the water running or lights on when not in the room since this was paying for something we were not even using. My Dad would have me visualize $1 here and there floating away.

Today I pick up stray aluminum cans and take them to the recycling center that also pays me. I reuse the 30 gallon garden bag and wash it after each use. One bag can last a year before its torn. Even then I use it as a block cloth in garden areas where I want to hold in the heat for the soil while blocking out weeds.

Our son and his family are equally wise in reusing things. Growing up this was called common sense. Now its called being 'green'. Maybe if we made these ideas common sense again we would have more 'average' Americans wanting to change wasteful ways. Make it a money saving issue and more people will want to do it.

~Beth~

Posted by: snarkytattooedheathen

Bento

I haven't used a plastic sandwich bag since I started making the kids Bento style lunches.

Posted by: Anna Gates

Reusing plastic bags

Well, it only takes one person to use it, and reuse it..., but planted in the ground, takes 1000 years to go away and unless it's made from corn say, isn't ever reuseable. Recycling's not easy though. Something like an upside down mopped crane is like the start of it, but it doesn't end there! Factories have work to do too, plus the companies that make the materials. Not easy, and pretty soon, bags are going to cost money, so, this is a never ending world. I can't even get my parents to care for the Earth one bit and I've tried teaching them my whole life. Part of caring for the Earth is taking care of your health properly, too. Unfortunately, I can't get them to do, think or remember anything until someone repeats the story, but they never do it. I am and will, always, as much as I am allowed and have time for. I promise, for I still live with them.

Posted by: krau0098

Be careful with washing out plastic bags

I work as a chemist and thought that washing our plastic bags thing was cool until I looked into it more.

Ziploc bags aren't meant to be used multiple times and the plastic degrades over time releasing monomers and/or plasticizers that can be bad for your health.

So while I am all for everyone's plastic baggie reuse enthusiasm...I wouldn't recommend it. Much better to use plastic containers meant for reuse or glass containers. You can even use wax paper baggies which is what we switched to.

Same goes for plastic water bottles. They also degrade over time and aren't made from plastics that are stable through lots of reusing. We used to wash out our plastic water bottles but have now switched to Kleen Canteens and Sigg Cups. These are much safer to reuse and can still be recycled!

Posted by: jlake1129

Your mom was right.

I love reusing my plastic bags; they like many things in my house take "demotion" as they have been used more and more. Your mom had it right drying them on the cabinets though, why buy a dryer when you can utilize something you already have. It's taken me a long time but I try to think about not buying those little purchases w/ as much enthusiasm as I have when I cheat the system and reuse something.

Posted by: VMWH

recycling plastic bags

I keep a 5 tier skirt hanger on my curtain rod over the kitchen sink. I hang plastic bags there to dry. I wash them out and hang them up unless they are too greasy to reuse.

Posted by: Susan329

Another ad for "stuff"

I wonder how many plastic bags could be made out of the petroleum it takes to make a "Telescoping Plastic Bag Dryer."

Hang a short clothesline above your sink, or dry them on your outdoor clothesline.

Posted by: rnraupe

people call me a depression grandma

I was raised washing not only ziploc bags, but also foil and sandwhich bags. I still save foil if it doesn't need to be washed, I wash bags, I save wrapping paper(if I even wrap a present I use newspaper-kids don't care), I traded paper towels for washable utility towels, and I use cloth diapers(my husband uses disposable). I don't know how many times I have dug bags and diapers out of the trash that my husband throws away-he's usually pretty good but refuses to wash bags.I use my old paper towel holder to dry them.

Posted by: jweeks

Sounds Like My House!!!

I keep trying to make small steps to being green and my husband fights me the whole way. The only way I can get away with any changes is if they don't affect him, but he still picks on me for it. Good to know I'm not the only one fighting that battle.

Posted by: heatherllevin

How To Stop Using Plastic

This post made me laugh, only because just this year I jumped on the "washing out my Ziplocs" train!

I just wrote a post on my blog on different ways to reuse and recycle Ziploc bags. I hate having the bags all over my kitchen (because it makes it look cluttered), so I researched more "out of sight" ways to dry them out.

You can see the post here.

Thanks for the laugh today!

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